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5:25 pm
December 3, 2010


OutdoorFrontiers

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Yes harder than a 38,but want to take its head off not get it mad.

Why do you need to take its head off?  Isn't dead good enough?  A .38 powered load of shot to the head is going to kill any snake dead, Dead, DEAD!


As for actual carrying no vehicle born carry,as not for 2 legged varmits as in actual concealed.And taurus does make a 3 in chamber version for about twice the money,however the 2 1/2 in with match ammo would be fairly docile i would think with the pistol weighing 36 oz

You're still talking about a gun that weighs over two pounds!  That's a fairly hefty load of ordinance to carry around.  And while it's heavy, consider the fact that a .410 shotgun weighs almost three times as much, so there's a lot more mass to absorb recoil.  A Judge is going to give your hands and wrists a work-out, even if you can find match ammo that functions in the gun.


For those who wish to conceal one say under a robe they make a small frame version.

And a small frame version is just plain nuts. 


And they are a five shot,not standard six shooter due to large caliber,rather odd looking long cyl as well.

And would hope tio never ever use it even on a cottonmouth,just have it handy if needed.

I look on a personal defense handgun as an insurance policy.  I hope I never need to use it, but should the need arise, I want it there and handy. 


All mute however at 500 bucks,just like the thought.

And that's why I brought up the .38 for $250.  Not only is the handgun more manageable, but it's more affordable.  Plus the ammo for a .38 is a LOT cheaper than .45 long colt.


If I obtain one will be big caiber 44,45,45lc as want a lot of bbs in it.I can handload to a level it works at ten ft and lil felt recoil due to heavy gun.

But that's just it, you don't need a big caliber.  You need something that is controllable, affordable and carryable!  Few .44, .45 or .45 long colt fit that bill.

Desert eagle would quailfy but they to are very expensive.

LOL, just a bit.  If you can find one for under $800, you're doing well


I used to own a snakle charmer in 410,mossberg pistol grip was nice to shoot,didnt weigh much more.Canot however put that in a glove box either in the boat or seat of the  truck.

Keeping one in the rod locker would just deteriate it.And most likly think im nuts trying to get a carry permit for a shotgun.

The Snake Charmer shotgun was a great little camp gun, but you're right, it wasn't practical other than a "behind the seat" gun…


I still think a .38 revolver would be the ticket.  I do know of a semi-compact 9mm semi-auto that's for sale for $159.00 (brand new) and I think you can buy 9mm birdshot rounds.

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11:46 am
December 3, 2010


lilmule

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Yes harder than a 38,but want to take its head off not get it mad.

As for actual carrying no vehicle born carry,as not for 2 legged varmits as in actual concealed.And taurus does make a 3 in chamber version for about twice the money,however the 2 1/2 in with match ammo would be fairly docile i would think with the pistol weighing 36 oz

For those who wish to conceal one say under a robe they make a small frame version.

And they are a five shot,not standard six shooter due to large caliber,rather odd looking long cyl as well.

And would hope tio never ever use it even on a cottonmouth,just have it handy if needed.

All mute however at 500 bucks,just like the thought.

If I obtain one will be big caiber 44,45,45lc as want a lot of bbs in it.I can handload to a level it works at ten ft and lil felt recoil due to heavy gun.

Desert eagle would quailfy but they to are very expensive.

I used to own a snakle charmer in 410,mossberg pistol grip was nice to shoot,didnt weigh much more.Canot however put that in a glove box either in the boat or seat of the  truck.

Keeping one in the rod locker would just deteriate it.And most likly think im nuts trying to get a carry permit for a shotgun.

9:27 am
December 3, 2010


OutdoorFrontiers

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Well Lil Mule, I've got news for you.  The Judge loaded with .410 shotshells is going to recoil  harder than a .38 loaded with birdshot.  And your accuracy isn't going to be a whole lot better with the Judge either.  It was designed for what you're talking about, personal defense; and that range is usually 30 feet or less.


A 110 grain .38 bullet travels roughly 945 feet per second (fps) and has 218 lbs. of kinetic energy.

A 225 grain .45 LC travels 859 fps, but carries 361 lbs. of energy, so with the heavier bullet recoil is going to be somewhat stout!

A .410, 2.5 inch shotshell carries 1/2 ounce of shot!  That's 437.5 grains of projectile weight!  And the heavier the projectile going out the barrel, the heavier the felt recoil is going to be.


I know a guy that has two Smith & Wesson revolvers for sale.  One is an Airweight with an internal hammer, the other is a conventional 6 shooter.  He'll sell either for $250.


That would be the perfect defense gun.  Simple to use (the original "Point & Click" interface), easy to maintain and clean, and it wouldn't cost an arm and a leg.


The Judge is a fine weapon, but it has limitations as well.  One is it IS a big, heavy and clunky firearm, so it's almost impossible to conceal (not a high priority for you I know), they're fairly shotshell selective (meaning not all shotgun shells are going to work well with it), and if it's a big, heavy and clunky firearm, chances are you're not going to enjoy carrying it.  And if you don't enjoy lugging it around, then it gets left at home and it won't be with you when you need it most!


As for the accuracy requirements to get a CC permit?  That I don't know…  You could probably contact the Henry County Sheriff's Department and they might be able to tell you that.

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9:07 am
December 3, 2010


lilmule

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I once when I had my firearms lic,refused a tradein of a barrett 45/70 for 100 bucks,as at the time couldnt see me reselling it,wish i had.Talk about a wrist breaker.

I figgure one would only shoot a 50 only once.

8:55 am
December 3, 2010


lilmule

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Got the Ill stats off another web forum and no didnt mark it,twas passing thru.

As for the judge its rather large weighs most likly about what an ar15 does at a guess,but rather liked it when viewed in that gunshop,would be mostly 410 shell ammo and supposed to have less recoil with it

The permit would be just to keep me out of hot water with the law,most likly the sight of it would create warm water,but be legal,if used would just say he barred his fangs and refused to leave the ramp then attacked me.Generally carried in my conveyance than on person,truck,boat.

Is there an accuracy requirement of how many shells hit on the range?

if so hed need 48 targets,if 48 shots req.

The 45 lc is quite a hefty round,with a lot of recoil,but also bet its got kenetic  energy when stopped by something.

I have shot a 45 acp and that twas a hand cannon(military A1),thus why I like the 410 capable as well,with less recoil,in particular with shot.

I was just never fond of 38 used 32 acp,357 magnum and 9mm,not fond of 380 either for same reasons even though auto loader-not near as accurate in my own opinion,most with sights to match accuracy.At close range not genrally noticed but move it out a tad and it becomes qute noticeable.Rugar security six being the exception as good sights and hefty 357 that will also shoot 38s as its just a short 357.A snub 38 is just an arm length to 10 ft  weapon to me.

8:48 pm
December 2, 2010


OutdoorFrontiers

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Man, I don't know where you get your information, but a concealed carry permit is just about impossible to get in Illinois!  I know law officers that can't get a CC Permit for Illinois!


Ok, this is taken directly from the State of Tennessee's web site and here's the list of states that have a reciprocity agreement with the State of Tennessee.


  • Alaska
  • Arizona
  • Arkansas
  • Florida
  • Georgia
  • Kentucky
  • Louisiana
  • Michigan
  • Mississippi
  • New Hampshire
  • North Carolina
  • Ohio
  • Pennsylvania
  • South Carolina
  • South Dakota
  • Texas
  • Virginia
  • West Virginia
  • Wyoming

And here's the list of states that don't have reciprocity agreements, but will recognize TN Concealed Carry permits.


And here's the states that don't recognize TN cc permits.


Now, in order to get a concealed carry permit, you have to attend a handgun safety course recognized by the state.  This is done (I've been told) by the Henry County Sheriff's Department, and there's also a guy in Dover that conducts classes.  Both are done once a month and cost right around $100.


Once you've gone through the one-day course, which covers all the basics of when, where and how you can/should carry, as well as the legal ramifications of should you actually use your firearm, then you go to the range where you practice with your hadgun.  Once you've done this, you'll get a certificate of completion.


Then, you take this to any state of Tennessee Driver's License Station and you fill out a form, and they'll give you directions on where to go to get fingerprinted.  Then you wait for your license to appear in the mail.  This handgun carry permit is good for four years.  It then costs $50 to renew the license for another four years.


Now you carrying a Judge would be similar to me carrying Barrett .50 Cal…!  If you're worried about snakes (both the crawling kind and the two legged kind) at boat ramps, I'd suggest a .38 and birdshot rounds.  It'll have the necessary "snort" to kill a snake, and it'll ruin the day for a two legged snake too!  Especially if you load it with three rounds of bird shot and three hollow points!  Cool


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7:37 pm
December 2, 2010


lilmule

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CoolAn Ill concealed carry is good for 30 states,how many is the tn permit good for?

Guess one would have to check the map prior to see if ok or not since quite a few dont recipricate.

Contemplating getting a judge,due to cottonmouths on unimproved  ramps.

Something that big would be obvious on such a small creature as myself, but figgure permit would keep me out of trouble if even on the seat,or bad trouble with johhny law.

Could always get a backpack holster and a rather large coat.Bit of humor,but would like to know cost of aquirring and how or where its good at.



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