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8:12 pm
July 4, 2011


OutdoorFrontiers

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Andy,


It's a little tough to look at rod model numbers and tell what the rod should be used for.  I more typically handle the rod first and then decide if it's going to work well for the application I want to use.  Heck, I've used spinning rod blanks and built a baitcasting rod because I felt that the particular blank was going to work best for the application I decided on.


But it does appear that you have a good selection of tackle and all the bases covered.  About the only thing I didn't see covered was a Carolina Rig rod, but then again, I don't know how much you C-Rig fish anyway.


I will agree with LilMule though, you're better equipped than many anglers out there….  Cool

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5:16 am
July 2, 2011


lilmule

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Kinda looks like your set up better than many including me,but you find after using that is what you determine what you get for certain things,how well you yourself like it and humans being creatures of habit tend to go back to the ol standbys.

I own several Diawa reels but just about anything out there out casts them just dont out last them.And often wih me $ dictates what I buy to some degree so make choices between the lesser of evils so to speak.

7:49 am
July 1, 2011


andyfender

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OutdoorFrontiers said:

Andy, that rod/reel selection looks REALLY good.  With that selection, you won't be missing out on anything.  Now you just need to work on getting enough rods and reels so that you have one for every different technique you want to try.


I have one rod for spinnerbaits, one for frogs, one for flukes, one for senkos, one for dropshotting, one for cranks, one for…..Surprised


Steve,

How does this look? Anything you would add as to what kind of lure to throw.

Diawa Advantage reel on a Diawa Crankin Light & Tough TL-701-1RB Rod.
For Cranks 30 Lb Power Pro

Diawa Zillion Reel on a Diawa Light & Tough Frogging Rod TL-74T-5FB Rod.
For Jigs, Frogs, Creature Baits 50 Lb Power Pro

Shimano Curado 200E 8' Rodmith MH Fast (I have the reel, did not by the rod yet)
For Jerk Baits, Soft Swim Baits, Spinners 30 Lb Power Pro

Note: All my spinning reels are all set. (Drop Shot, Wackey,t-rig)

6:27 am
June 29, 2011


OutdoorFrontiers

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Andy, that rod/reel selection looks REALLY good.  With that selection, you won't be missing out on anything.  Now you just need to work on getting enough rods and reels so that you have one for every different technique you want to try.


I have one rod for spinnerbaits, one for frogs, one for flukes, one for senkos, one for dropshotting, one for cranks, one for…..Surprised

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12:23 pm
June 28, 2011


andyfender

New York

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OutdoorFrontiers said:

I'm sure there are other good combos out there, but I know I WON'T fish spinnerbaits on another rod other than my American Rodsmiths Croaker Smoker.  That long (8 ft.) blank gives me a lot more control over fish and really lets me pound hooks home, even on the end of a long cast.


And after a while, eight feet doesn't seem that long…   Cool


Steve,

How does this look to you?

Diawa Advantage reel on a Diawa Crankin Light & Tough TL-701-1RB Rod.

Cranks  20 Lb Power Pro

Diawa Zillion Reel on a Diawa Light & Tough Frogging Rod TL-74T-5FB Rod.

Jigs, Frogs, Creature Baits 50 Lb Power Pro

Shimano Curado 200E on an American Rodsmith Croaker.

Spinners, Jerk Baits, Soft Swim Baits. 30 Lb Power Pro

Note: All my finesse fishing is done with spinning gear.

2:59 pm
June 22, 2011


OutdoorFrontiers

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I'm sure there are other good combos out there, but I know I WON'T fish spinnerbaits on another rod other than my American Rodsmiths Croaker Smoker.  That long (8 ft.) blank gives me a lot more control over fish and really lets me pound hooks home, even on the end of a long cast.


And after a while, eight feet doesn't seem that long…   Cool

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11:11 am
June 22, 2011


andyfender

New York

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Steve,

I am 99% certain that I am going to get the Shimano Curado 200E. I am also looking at the rods you suggested. :)    If you use them they gots to be good Wink

11:23 am
June 21, 2011


OutdoorFrontiers

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It sounds about right to me Andy.  But then again, that's how my rods are rigged…  Wink

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11:03 am
June 21, 2011


andyfender

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Yes, My cranking & jerkbait rod I use 30lb Power Pro

Frogging, Jigs and Ozmos =50lb Braid

Spinning & Top water = Will use 50lb Braid.


Does that sound about right?


Andy

8:32 am
June 21, 2011


OutdoorFrontiers

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Hey Andy,


I'd say that if you're happy with the setups you currently have, and the Daiwa Advantage setup you have is good for jerkbaits, if you use the new rig for spinnerbaits and cranks, you'll be just fine.


The only problem I have would be figuring out what line to use.  I prefer 50 lb. PowerPro for spinnerbaits and buzzbaits, but 30 lb. PowerPro for crankbaits.  The smaller line diameter allows the cranks to get deeper.  If you don't do a lot of deep cranking, I'd probably go with the 50 lb. line.  I just don't feel comfortable throwing spinnerbaits around heavy cover on less than 50 lb. line…

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4:57 am
June 21, 2011


andyfender

New York

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Steve,

That is some great information, I will definitely look into American Rodsmith.  The two baitcaster setups I have right now are:

Diawa Advantage reel on a Diawa Crankin Light & Tough TL-701-1RB Rod  ( Used for Cranks, Jerks,Spinners Baits 30lb Power Pro)


Diawa Zillion Reel on a Diawa Light & Tough Froggin Rod TL-74T-5FB (Jigs, Frogs, Ozmos into cover 50lb Power Pro)

I would like to add a third baitcaster setup, for Spinners and cranks. On my two existing setups are there any changes you would make? What would be your third setup?


Thanks,


Andy 


12:25 pm
June 20, 2011


OutdoorFrontiers

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Well, here's how I see it.


Spinnerbaits and crankbaits require (according to conventional wisdom) a rod that has a little softer action than a jerkbait rod, so it's going to be difficult to find a rod that will work well for all three applications.  With the increased sensitivity of rods today, it's easy to set the hook too fast with a fast action rod, so the softer action will reduce (somewhat) the tendency to react too quickly on the fish.  I'm not 100% certain of this, but I do know from experience that slightly softer rods do work well for spinnerbaits and cranks.


American Rodsmiths makes a rod called "The Croaker Smoker."  It's an 8 foot, medium action rod and it really should be marketed as a spinnerbait and crankbait rod.  I have one and the thing is amazing.  It'll launch a lightweight spinnerbait a mile with 50 lb. braid, yet has sufficient backbone to set the hook into a fish even at the end of a long cast.  It sells for $119.00 and here's a link to that particular rod.  http://americanrodsmiths.com/c…..ker-smoker


In my estimation, a jerkbait rod needs to be 7 feet long, with a medium/heavy power rating and a fast to extra fast action.  When it comes to factory built rods, I do have a tendency to recommend American Rodsmith rods.  But, while they're fantastic in quality and more importantly, fishability, their prices do have a tendency to run a bit to the high side.


Another rod company that produces a great product is Citrus Sticks.  They make three different classes of rods that run $99, $150 and $199.  I've got one of their Frog/Swimbait rods from the high end group and it's an amazing rod.  Lightweight and sensitive, it does a great job.  They make some good jerkbait rods as well.    Here's a link to their website.  http://www.citrusstick.com/index.html


Some people like the bright colors, others hate the colors on the rods.  To me, I'm more interested in the performance of the rod and I'm impressed with my Citrus Stick.


So I guess while I've given you some information, I guess I couldn't tell you which rod to buy.  Mostly because I think you need two different rods….  I guess that's how I ended up with a ridiculous number of rods in my boat…..Confused


Sorry….Embarassed

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10:42 am
June 20, 2011


andyfender

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OutdoorFrontiers said:

Well, if'n you're asking me, I'd say go with the Shimano Curado.  I have probably six or eight of the things and they're just downright bullet proof!  I cannot imagine a better reel with the exception of the Shimano Chronarch SF…  Cool


Of course, I've heard good things about the Revo reels, but I have a lot of experience with Shimano and they've all been great reels.


Steve,


I am leaning towards the Shimano Curado 200E. What rod would you suggest?


Thanks,


Andy

7:09 pm
June 19, 2011


OutdoorFrontiers

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Well, if'n you're asking me, I'd say go with the Shimano Curado.  I have probably six or eight of the things and they're just downright bullet proof!  I cannot imagine a better reel with the exception of the Shimano Chronarch SF…  Cool


Of course, I've heard good things about the Revo reels, but I have a lot of experience with Shimano and they've all been great reels.

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11:16 am
June 19, 2011


andyfender

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A couple of reels jump out at me, both baitcasters.

Shimana Curado E

Abu-Garcia Revo SX


Both are in the same price range. Which one would you go with. I am looking to throw cranks, jerks, spinning baits with it.


Thanks,


Andy

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