Forum | When things go wrong #2

You must be logged in to post

Search Forums:


 






When things go wrong #2

No Tags
UserPost

9:06 am
June 18, 2010


lilmule

Buchanan,Tn

Member

posts 1446

1

I think they all have some glitches,my scout would sometimes pick up a stump or other structure,yet more often than not something was sitting on it.One of my very first depth finders (it came with the boat)was a paper graph,it never ever saw grass possibly due to its frequency,so replaced it,new one saw grass not was underneath it so the old one bacck on as well as it never saw the grass and gave me bottom contour and structure or cover such as a log underneath,turned out one of my best hotspots on a grass bed that was topped and very thick had a log underneath.

So a lot is how they are desinged to work,amd sometimes by accident they work better than others or in conjuction with.So can see how grass would confuse its bottom track,think then shore track would be better if one could see an actual grass line.But would love to have one,naturally it wouldnt be the only one have two up front always,one on console,and several times had three up front one being a sidefinder the other two depth,and still prfer them seperate to some degree,it is nice to straddle a feature and see the two different dpeths displayed on a screenmodern sidefinder,have one that does that now along with a total sidefinder for shallow schoolers.once found however generally turn it off as the whole screen is nothing but bliips.Sometimes they are 5 to 7 ft under the surface and not visable so it comes in handy.

Would i replace my old scout no as no modern sidefinder picks up fish 50 ft behind a barge under the lip edge or for that matter fish 5 ft deep in 60 ft of water,unless one runs over them scattering them as a result.

Biut would love a pinpoint.

6:34 am
June 18, 2010


OutdoorFrontiers

Whitlock, TN

Admin

posts 1440

2

The only time I had problems with mine was when I was working over really soft bottom or trying to track a shoreline and a weed bed got in between me and the shore.  It seemed like the signal would punch through in some spots and not in others, confusing the unit.


Other than that, it worked great.  I should have kept the motor…

Steve Huber Editor in Chief/Executive Producer OutdoorFrontiers Multi-Media

6:36 pm
June 17, 2010


dougw

Texas

Member

posts 607

3

I looked at those pinpoints back when…. Loved the concept but as you said motor reliability "steered" me away from'em. When I bought my new motor guide I looked at the MK that auto troll or something like that. I'm not sure how it worked GPS or sonar but I talked to the local repair guy at Fishing Tackle Unlimited and he said for what I wanted to do I wouldn't be happy with it. "IF" you have it in auto track and have to correct manually seems it kicked it out of auto track and had to be reset – among other things. When they come out with one that has "Locate feeding fish" on it AND that feature works – I'm buying one!

6:14 pm
June 17, 2010


OutdoorFrontiers

Whitlock, TN

Admin

posts 1440

4

Yep, sold it when I sold my Cobra.  Then I found out that the guy who bought my Cobra took the PinPointoff and sold it, replacing it with a MinnKota…..

Steve Huber Editor in Chief/Executive Producer OutdoorFrontiers Multi-Media

4:14 pm
June 17, 2010


lilmule

Buchanan,Tn

Member

posts 1446

5

Yes pinpoint is the actual name,it took many years for me to find out what such improvement is,it eliminates the competetion one then incorporates what they desire out of the patents,up the price of the unit since now can be bought only there,and evenautally the brand name is completely gone.Example bottom line 5 deg sidefinder now hummingbird 20 deg and bottom line gone.

I did stock up some units like the scout ,love those things for schoolers,or stripers or finding fish way back behind a structure be a barge or dock.

Lemmie guess it went when a boat did.

2:00 pm
June 17, 2010


OutdoorFrontiers

Whitlock, TN

Admin

posts 1440

6

I had a PinPoint 3700 trolling motor on one of my boats and dearly loved it.  I put it on just before I came down to Tennessee for the first time.  I fished for over five hours and never touched the foot pedal once.  I set it for a comfortable fishing distance from shore, set my speed to medium slow and just kept casting.  It was amazing how well that motor worked.


It was amazing for muskie guiding too.  We'd drift over large, expansive weed flats on the windy end of the lake, casting big muskie plugs.  If a client stuck a fish, it was simple for me to hit "Depth Track" once on the motor, then go back, coach the client in playing a big fish, then net the fish, take pictures and release it.  The motor wouldn't allow the boat to go any shallower.  It would sense a depth change and turn, speed up, slow down, whatever it took to keep the boat at the same depth as when I hit the button!  It was great.


It also worked well fishing for walleyes and smallmouth.  I'd find an underwater hump and set the depth to the left and to the right, then let the motor work.  I learned more about underwater structure from that motor, and caught more fish because the motor would find those little inside turns that seem to really concentrate the fish.


And on another lake, the lake association put in fish cribs at the 14 foot depth contour.  There again, I simply set the motor to run at 14 feet and let it go.  I'd watch the bow locator and whenever we ran over a crib, I'd pitch out a marker, then go back and fish it.  This was long before GPS, so I'd have to remember shoreline identifiers in order to find them again quickly.


I had hoped that once MotorGuide bought PinPoint, they'd improve on the technology and make it a little more dependable as occasionally the motor would get confused.  But from what I've heard, that hasn't been the case…

Steve Huber Editor in Chief/Executive Producer OutdoorFrontiers Multi-Media

8:24 am
June 17, 2010


lilmule

Buchanan,Tn

Member

posts 1446

7

Ive only had one mg do thiis,and found the large screwdriver as a pry bar did the trick along with pressing down on the motor at the same time,didnt take much to free it,and only did it a few times.

However since then have been using mk,hand control units only,also found out the mg seemed to wollow out the shear pin hole after useage,thus on that same old mg that locked up ended up drilling them even and making my own shear pins,and one control board went out,another reason im running mk anymore.

Had had quite a few brands on other boats many no longer made and outdated like 12 v,but the only other brand(once I settled on mk) ive wanted to try but could never afford is the creek track,programable,or a  remote unit ,with a nice lil pad that straps on the rod or even on a lanyard.

But since the $ is out of my area doubt if I ever get the chance,nowdays any 24 v troller that can move a 20 ft boat around is almost 1,000 bucks,creek tracks are double that.

12:37 pm
June 15, 2010


OutdoorFrontiers

Whitlock, TN

Admin

posts 1440

8

Hurray!  Now RUN, don't walk to Florida and get that boat home!


It's about time and I hope that they've actually got it fixed.

Steve Huber Editor in Chief/Executive Producer OutdoorFrontiers Multi-Media

6:42 am
June 15, 2010


dougw

Texas

Member

posts 607

9

I'm on Lake Amistad near Del Rio, Texas. I'm fishing main lake points and the wind it howling. Not enjoying much success I decide to try another location. I reach down to lift the trolling motor and it won't budge. The locking pin had shifted, again, and would not release. Having had this happen before I knew what to do. I pulled the trolling motor from the bracket and layed it on the front deck. I'm on the Mexican side of the lake and the only calm water is on the U. S. side. Sooo… I fire up and run over there.


I had some tools on the boat but I didn't have a pry bar. I encounter a couple of anglers in the cove but they didn't have anything either. Seems this shifting pin problem on MotorGuide trolling motors is a rather common problem. One of the guys in the other boat told me he had drilled holes in the plastic housing so he could center the pin when it happens.


I eventually get the pin centered using an adjustable wrench. Re-install the trolling motor and head back to the Mexican side. I fish several points, moving each time from one location to another. Then preparing to move again… the trolling motor locks down - again. Not wanting to make the trip back to the U. S. again I fire up the big engine and point to the boat out towards open water and start working to center the pin. Checking my course often I see the boat keeps heading back towards the rocky shoreline. Ka'rap….. Then I figure out what I can do… I idle the boat out into deeper water and put it into a hard left hand turn. Now I'm circling over deeper water while working to release the pin.


All told the trolling motor locked down more than a dozen times over the course of 5 days. After the first day the problem popped up I put the tire iron from my truck in the boat. This made freeing up the trolling motor bracket a much easier job by allowing me to pry the plastic shroud out enough to clear the pin and raise the bracket. Once I raised the bracket I could re-center the pin. It seems the rougher the water the more prone this problem is to crop up. I have a plan to eliminate this problem that "should" work just fine. Of course… I ain't doing it on this hunk'a'junk loaner boat. But…. While returning home on Monday I received a call from Florida informing me… my boat is ready!

No Tags


About the Outdoor Frontiers forum

Most Users Ever Online:

18


Currently Online:

8 Guests

Forum Stats:

Groups: 6

Forums: 20

Topics: 685

Posts: 3845

Membership:

There are 246 Members

There has been 1 Guest

There are 2 Admins

There are 0 Moderators

Top Posters:

lilmule – 1446

dougw – 607

andyfender – 84

tndiver – 70

transamz9 – 33

Chris2fur – 27

Administrators: OutdoorFrontiers (1440 Posts), siteadmin (15 Posts)