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8:26 pm
December 18, 2009
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OutdoorFrontiers
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Yep, you should be good to go. The type 24 batteries might not have as long of a life as 27 or 31 batteries, but on a boat the size of yours, it really shouldn't make too much of a difference.
I'm glad we could help out. 
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7:22 pm
December 18, 2009
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andyfender
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OutdoorFrontiers said:I don't think that your boat will have any problems handling the two batteries and you'll get far more fishing time running a 24 volt system over a 12.
As for simply adding a type 27 to your existing type 24, you can do that. But I knew there was a "good news/bad news" type of thing to go along with that, so I contacted a friend at Courtney Industrial Battery Company.
The good news is you can just buy one more battery and you'll have the 24 volts needed to run a new trolling motor.
The bad news is that the type 24 is going to poop out before the type 27 and drain down the 27 as this happens.
My guy said that you really should run two batteries of the same type and age for maximum battery longevity, both from the standpoint of how long you can fish and how long before replacing batteries.
My 24 Grp battery is from July 09. So If I get another 24 Grp I will be good to go!
Andy
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7:22 pm
December 18, 2009
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andyfender
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OutdoorFrontiers said:I don't think that your boat will have any problems handling the two batteries and you'll get far more fishing time running a 24 volt system over a 12.
As for simply adding a type 27 to your existing type 24, you can do that. But I knew there was a "good news/bad news" type of thing to go along with that, so I contacted a friend at Courtney Industrial Battery Company.
The good news is you can just buy one more battery and you'll have the 24 volts needed to run a new trolling motor.
The bad news is that the type 24 is going to poop out before the type 27 and drain down the 27 as this happens.
My guy said that you really should run two batteries of the same type and age for maximum battery longevity, both from the standpoint of how long you can fish and how long before replacing batteries.
My 24 Grp battery is from July 09. So If I get another 24 Grp I will be good to go!
Andy
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2:31 pm
December 18, 2009
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OutdoorFrontiers
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I don't think that your boat will have any problems handling the two batteries and you'll get far more fishing time running a 24 volt system over a 12.
As for simply adding a type 27 to your existing type 24, you can do that. But I knew there was a "good news/bad news" type of thing to go along with that, so I contacted a friend at Courtney Industrial Battery Company.
The good news is you can just buy one more battery and you'll have the 24 volts needed to run a new trolling motor.
The bad news is that the type 24 is going to poop out before the type 27 and drain down the 27 as this happens.
My guy said that you really should run two batteries of the same type and age for maximum battery longevity, both from the standpoint of how long you can fish and how long before replacing batteries.
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1:45 pm
December 18, 2009
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andyfender
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That is my biggest concern as you mentioned, pooping out of juice. They are some lakes in my area that do not allow gas outboards. So my main source of power would be solely the trolling motor. Here is a picture of my boat if that helps. I think it can handle tow batteries. I would have to buy another one as I only have a grp 24 right now. So even if I had a 12v TM, I am not certain that the grp 24 would hold all day? So why not get a grp 27 and use that with the grp24 to power a 24 v Tm?
Andy
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4:54 pm
December 14, 2009
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andyfender
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OutdoorFrontiers said:
Yeah, you guys are probably right. I kept thinking of my spring walleye fishing on the Wisconsin River and now down here on Kentucky Lake. Both are extreme conditions that the average angler isn't going to encounter. Plus, I had a tendency to fish a little longer and a little harder than most, so a 12 volt battery just didn't cut it.
But a type 31 battery with one of the newer, more efficient trolling motors should be sufficient for most people.
See the other issue I have is that I have a 24grp Battery. So if I went with a 12v TM I would probably have to get a 29,31 Grp. If I got the 24V TM I could just get a 24, or 27grp and be fine. Also, there are a lot of lake in the area that do not allow outboards so it's important that the TM last. It would be my main source of moving.
Andy
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5:50 pm
December 12, 2009
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OutdoorFrontiers
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Knowing Janet, she'll probably say "Good! How can I miss him if he won't go away? 
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5:44 pm
December 12, 2009
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dougw
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OutdoorFrontiers said:
… I had a tendency to fish a little longer and a little harder than most, …
If I come there to check out the lake prior to the ABA Nationals AND we go to the lake in one boat – tell your wife you'll see her in a couple of days – or at the very least… tomorrow! I usually have to be dragged kickin' and screamin' off of the lake.
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11:50 am
December 12, 2009
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OutdoorFrontiers
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andyfender said:
If I go with a 24v TM using 2 12 V batteries , how do I power the Fish finder. The boat is a pull start not electric start.
Andy
Andy, the connection would be no different. Simply run the locator leads off one of the batteries.
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11:46 am
December 12, 2009
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andyfender
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If I go with a 24v TM using 2 12 V batteries , how do I power the Fish finder. The boat is a pull start not electric start.
Andy
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8:32 am
December 12, 2009
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OutdoorFrontiers
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Yeah, you guys are probably right. I kept thinking of my spring walleye fishing on the Wisconsin River and now down here on Kentucky Lake. Both are extreme conditions that the average angler isn't going to encounter. Plus, I had a tendency to fish a little longer and a little harder than most, so a 12 volt battery just didn't cut it.
But a type 31 battery with one of the newer, more efficient trolling motors should be sufficient for most people.
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6:13 am
December 12, 2009
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lilmule
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14 ft bow mount ,looking for $ saved or spent yes stick with about 50 pd thrust 12v troller as 24 while better and longer lasting for large boats ,current,wind, cost much more.
Price of say a 50 to 52 pd 12 v ,is about half the cost of a 24 v say 70 pd troller,they still arnt cheap nothing is anymore when it comes to boating accessories.
You can however sometimes buy a decent used one off ebay,I got my 24 v that way, guy bought it installed and then went and got a 36 v as fished lake erie,so I got a slightly used 24 v 72 pd thrust for under 300 bucks,hand control bow mount, not foot.
That was about ten years ago and its still operating so got my monies worth,things run about 700- 800 now days.
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5:51 am
December 12, 2009
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dougw
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I dunno guys…. You're suggesting he add 25% the of weight of his over-all weight with a second trolling motor battery – at least. Not to mention rewiring and such.
I'd consider getting a good quality group 31 and staying with the 12v system. If you regulary fish rivers/streams with a lot of current then maybe a 24v system on that hull makes sense but if you fish mostly lakes a 12v w/good grp 31 battery should do all you need.
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9:14 am
December 9, 2009
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OutdoorFrontiers
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andyfender said:
The boat is roughly 205 Lbs, 14' long. With a 24 volt battery do you need a special charger?
Andy
Hi Andy, Dan is right, you'd be using two 12 volt batteries, so there isn't any special charger needed, just either two 12 volt chargers or charging each battery separately. It is most convenient to get an onboard charger that can charge both batteries at the same time however. Dual bank onboard chargers are pretty reasonable.
And he's right about rebuilt motors. They're considerably less expensive and often times carry a warranty.
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9:02 am
December 9, 2009
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DanB
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Hi Andy,
Check and see if you have a Minnkota service center in your area. Don't expect a big facility, the one that I lived near was a basement operation but the guy did great things with the motors. I upgraded several times over the years by trading my current motor for a rebuilt one and never got burned. It was much cheaper than buying new. Just a thought.
No you do not need a 24 volt charger if you go with a dual battery system. If you don't use it all that often you can charge each battery separately. You can also get a 2 bank charger that will charge each battery at the same time.
DanB
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7:05 pm
December 8, 2009
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andyfender
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The boat is roughly 205 Lbs, 14' long. With a 24 volt battery do you need a special charger?
Andy
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5:22 pm
December 8, 2009
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OutdoorFrontiers
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I don't know how heavy of a boat you're running Andy, but if you have the room for a second trolling motor battery, you might want to consider a 24 volt system.
When I was still running a 12 volt motor, quite often I would run out of battery power before I was ready to stop fishing for the day.
When I upgraded to 24 volts, I never had that problem.
MinnKota makes a 24 volt, 70 lb. thrust motor called the Edge 70 that is a nice, bare-bones trolling motor and reasonably priced as well. I'd take a look at that model to start with.
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4:51 pm
December 8, 2009
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andyfender
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I am in need of a new trolling motor. I have a 14' Grumman boat. I had a bow mount, Minn Kota. I would like to get another Minn Kota bow mount. Looking at about 50 of so lb thrust. Want something that is good ad won't put me in the poor house. What do you guys suggest?
Thanks,
Andy
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