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10:15 pm
February 3, 2010


lilmule

Buchanan,Tn

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Boy does that bring back memories,my uncle lived in Monks corner.

While he still worked in Charleston younger days we fished the canals.

I still have his 9 pd bass mount which he caught on a fly rod and a hula popper,only mount I own.

He always told me the best thing to do with a gator was leave it the $% alone,got the pudding scared out of me on several occasions.

I also had a boat pard who tended to get gar and turtles on his line and wanted me to get rid of them quite comical.

Get the net ive heard it so many times before,but never so darned funny until you know, long before they do you dont want it in the boat.

If there was ever a kodac moment its the look on their pleading face.

Is it me or do they yell get the net so much louder on those occasions.

8:33 pm
February 3, 2010


dougw

Texas

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When the action slowed on the Santee Cooper lakes Marion and Moltree I used to fish the Cooper River in Charleston, S.C. at night with a 5/8oz jitter bug working the grass lines. Me n' my partner would go there for 9 days at a time. We'd hit the water around 5-6pm and come off the water around 11am the next morning-if the fish weren't biting well. Whooo boy did we catch some fishes… To work the grass line effectively the person in the front of the boat had the best position as the boat was right on the grass line. We'd take turns. A fish in the boat sent the guy to the back-but he wasn't there long, usually.


One night my partner had the front and I heard a ferocious strike followed by a boat rockin' hook set quickly followed by a "GET THE NET" command. Which I did. Down on my knees at the side of the boat where my partner finally got it. I jab the net down and hit "hard"… even I know fish are supposed to be "soft"… Didn't get it in the net on the first or last try, which were one and the same. Going back on station at the back of the boat I left my partner to figure out 'zackly what he wanted to do with that thang. Gators will flat perforate those plastic bodied jitter bugs!

5:00 pm
February 3, 2010


lilmule

Buchanan,Tn

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They sure do,but one has to draw the line somewhere.

Its not catching one that bothers me its the unhooking and releasing it.Somewhat akin to hooking a cottonmouth. 

I did have one the first year I moved here follow me around and try to climb up on the boat,guess it thought it was better than a log.Wrong decision for it.

Other than Wally there are no local gators,about the closest are in Guntersville at the other end of the tn river chain.

3:27 pm
February 3, 2010


OutdoorFrontiers

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lilmule said:


I draw the line at alligator or croc fishing with them.


Oh c'mon…I've caught alligators several times now and they fight great!

Steve Huber Editor in Chief/Executive Producer OutdoorFrontiers Multi-Media

9:24 am
February 3, 2010


lilmule

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While this was an answer to a question we sorta got off the original subject,but the trap as well has been used with just the willow leaf  behind it as well.

Oddity yes,work yes,the rest will be left up to the fisherman or fisherperson.

Would you as a fisherman not throw one if someone produced pics of them catching bass?

Or pike or occasional musky even.

Several have dispersed to other places with just that in mind.

I draw the line at alligator or croc fishing with them.

7:23 pm
February 2, 2010


dougw

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I thought it meant Don't believe'it Buzz Bait! I'd chunk it. Don't know I've thrown anything quite that unconventional but I have come up with some strange stuff in the past. My best friend has a buzzin' rat-l-trap. You may have seen those. Buzz bait blades with drop down wire that you clip a 1/4-1/2oz rat-l-trap on. I don't recall him throwing it though but I do remember it. Seems like that should'a worked at times as well…

1:39 pm
February 2, 2010


lilmule

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Well a DBBB  is what the frankennbuzz evolved into,it lost its rivet and the name Steve had for it fits it better Double barrel bass buster.A  buzzbait that is used submerged.

On schoolers it works quite well,past reports on OF and on another board or two show that,and you can always ask Steve.

I believe his usual statement about it stated altered buzzr,odd looking,and  unconventional retrieve,or close to that effect.

It is odd looking,it does however work,even viewers who see it think its a fluke,up until about the fourth fish comes in the boat off of it.

Give one away for them to use and 15 min later they are back tossing what they were prior,has to do with a mental thought I think.Like this is weird why am I tossing this,do I want to be caught dead using it?

Since ive caught fish on them have no difficulty picking one up and slow rolling it across a 3 ft deep flat or point,the opposing delta blades break up the buzzbait blades but provide lift,and it can be run slower than any spinnerbait would,thus staying in the strike zone longer.

When you come here for the nationals you can toss one one day in practice just to see for yourself.

You just have to think of it as a spinnerbait one can wake or use bread n butter retrieve-blade flash in sight,then actually toss it.

This is no pun intended towards not actually using one,its just a mental thing we all have in our heads buzzbait-topwater,nah.

7:09 am
January 29, 2010


lilmule

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Ps im of course guessing,it will take 17-18 pds a day for three days to win here or more,9 pds on one day wont get you in the top 100,12lbs a day you might cut a check.If the ledge bite is hot,then add 5lbs to each-21 to win and 15 out of the money.

Ive actually seen 20 stringers weighed in over 20 lbs ea(may) with 24 pd stringer not even in the money.Winning weight that day was 31pds.-5 fish by the Paris police chief.

Fortunately he doesnt fish ABA that I know of.

7:00 am
January 29, 2010


lilmule

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I cant because of that narrow spool with no level wind,envision it all wrapped all over each other.

And if all fishermen were alike we would all have same thing tied on.

Same days you caught them on jigs Steve and I hammered them on flukes,a few frog fish and the DBBB here.When something works one doesnt normally switch to experiment,who knows maybe was a jig bite.Wind,current came into play ,current is what makes the ledge bite hot,but then again if one is catching fish 1-2 ft deep seldom does one experiment and go elsewhere.

6:16 am
January 29, 2010


dougw

Texas

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Nev'a say nev'a… At the nationals on Pickwick my total day one catch(only 9.11) was all on a jig. At the end of day one that was good for 28th place in the standings. Not saying you're aren't right but we encountered unusual conditions at Pickwick and it worked out that time. You can bet I'll have one tied on come nationals this year – just in case.


OK… ya' got me… What the heck is a DBBB?


Why can't you envions a 28# drag 40' back in the mat? Mine would be cranked to virtual lock-up on my Shimano's. Guess it depends on the answer to what is a DBBB. But knowing you're chunkin' 40' into the mat seems you'd be using something with a heavy hook and braid to get'em out.

10:14 pm
January 28, 2010


lilmule

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Bear in mind that at the time of the nationals here the jig bite is unimportant generally,even ledge fishing by the best brings in 12-14 lbs.

Fishing the go to places 2 ft deep are tops,so frog n fluke rods,along with something to toss a DBBB,sometimes a shallow f100 rootbeer.

Flipping stick seems to work nicely with the DBBB.But you dont want to pitch any of those 5 to 10 yrds,the boat seems to spook them long casts across the shallow points letting the point itself break up the image of you and vehicle seemed to be the best method.

Flipping switches I do not like,the more factors and complications etc the more I tend to mess up.

And that reels spool is real narrow,at a guess use limited to what its made for.

I cant envision anyone tossing it 40 yards back in the mat,to be able to use that heavy drag.

Hopefully someone will prove me wrong on that,would love a winch attached to my gorilla braid.

9:04 pm
January 28, 2010


dougw

Texas

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Yes, the reel is way less of an issue than the tip. And depending on how you palm it… could be an asset on longer rods.


Denny's one of my pro favorites. I love to jig fish though I didn't much last year. Learning new lakes under tourament pressure doesn't lend it's self well to scouting around and finding good places to jig. This year, having some "go to" places will allow me to start branching out and getting back into the jig fishing I normally like to do.

8:55 pm
January 28, 2010


lilmule

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Actually the F700 has 22 lb drag fact set.

Myself I liked the F500 better its cheaper and 28 lbs,2 bearings less

Ive met Denny and several other pros,I set the podium up for them at Marshall University in the Student Center on many occasions,for bass seminars.

7:24 pm
January 28, 2010


OutdoorFrontiers

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I haven't actually played with them yet, but I'm supposed to be getting one to evaluate.  So until they send me one, I can't really say too much about them.

I do like the idea of a "dragless" reel, and they're supposed to be an amazing frogging reel even if they are a little heavy.  I don't really think that 10.9 oz. is all that heavy though, and if I'm going to deal with weight, I'd rather have it at the reel and not on the tip of the rod…..

Steve Huber Editor in Chief/Executive Producer OutdoorFrontiers Multi-Media

5:11 pm
January 28, 2010


dougw

Texas

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I dunno maybe I'm just the last one to know but…


Have y'all seen this reel from Ardent? F700 Denny Brauer model?



As you can see – no level wind. What's hard to see is exactly how narrow the spool it – very. Set up to hold 100yds. of 80# braid. No adjustable Drag – preset at factory for 28#s. The F700 has a flipping switch for instant engagment when you take you thumb off the bar. The F500 does not have that switch. For what it's worth I've had a couple of reels that had'em and they, the flipping switches, were a pain in the neck(some, like me, have a lower opinion of'em). I can't flip for flip but the times I've tried and the times I've watched others I've never noticed the need for a switch – the spool is always engaged when flipping – if I'm doing it. They're heavy, which surpirsed me. F700 is 10.9oz. and the F500 is 9.9oz. Which on a mammy jammie of a flipping stick – who cares? But with no level wind, no drag star n' such I thought they'd come in a tad lighter. Must have some right heavy duty gears to gain that weight. I'd try one – probably, but they only come in R.H. models!

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