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8:39 pm
August 14, 2010


lilmule

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Not picky anything from an old xlow 135 0r 140,or later looper up to a 200 hp in the looper yet real cheap,20 in shaft preferred,compression should be even but not like new,just not with one cyl way lower.Many of the older omc can be found on a boat sometimes for even less money than by itself,by itself they get 1000 or up to 1800 from a dealer for a 135 -140,old xlows are rather cheap,just so far all ive seen is 25 in shafts.And going to take me a few months to actually get one,have to recover from spending what I did on it for a local to screw up,any omc run without an air box needs to be tuned via dual potentiometers(reads temp each bank).

Run to lean its burns up in about 2 miles,exactly what happened,psi water was ok,had i actually raised it above what was needed the boat would hook to the right and come off plane as its how an allison is made,and a tro4 wont grip above pad on plane by much anyway until that right hook comes into play.Nor was I actually up on the pad,at 43-46 one should be able to raise it say 3 or 4 in above the pad,as running on boat bottom.

Psi at time of failure was 26 then shot down to 18(still above needed psi),thermostats wernt opening all the way,showed small p at idle,apparently never giving it more water,but boo koos of air.

Boat as well had no low end torque to begin with as hard to get on plane.

Keeping an eye on psi di very lil good,as an after thought.

Would I take another hopped mota to where that one was done in at h3ll no.

As and added thought like you mentioned was to tight,thought it was the new bearings.

As for the merc stats they came from merc,the new 150 xs stats suck bigtime,yet the rest are preforming great.Besides weight is of more concern to me rather than hp output when it comes to big motas,but when 150 or smaller it bothers me a bit on how ell it preforms.A 135 1979 model ran my 17 ft phantom 59 mph with a 2/1 gr 5400 rpm 23 p mazco no nose cone 3 in below,yet a 2010 xs 150 pushes an 18 ft triton 58 mph,my 85 model 150 gt ran my ranger to same speed 59,19 1/2 ft very heavy.So Id rather have an old xlow and pass the 12 k motor.

7:37 pm
August 14, 2010


dougw

Texas

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I could search for an engine in this area but… most likely it will have seen a lot of saltwater time. Not good in any way.


I'd be surprised if an opti-pop would indeed out perform a Pro XS. The XS in addition to performance are noted for their fuel mileage.


The next time I'm at Toledo Bend I'll check around for a used OMC. East Texas ain't a whole lot different than where you're at. And there's a fairly good chance of locating a decent engine at a decent price. What's the earliest model you want? I know you'd take a brand new one if the price was right! :>)


Yeah, I know how to use the trip feature on my GPS… been using it for years. Just recently it seems it feels the need to clear all the data fields when I turn the unit off and back on. It logs the trip fine and the numbers are there… until ya' power it off.

7:10 pm
August 14, 2010


lilmule

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Think the gps has to be trac saved,then can view all the stats when called up,I have one that reverts to simulation screen at a glance,figure its about had it have to reset and restart several times while out,came with the boat and was a cheapie.

Was just reviewing power tpes and came across that didnt know how usefull,thanks.

While the 200 xs has nice stats its weight is 505 same as a yammer 4 stoke on a diet,the 150 xs is a flat dog at 58 mph on an 18 ft boat,an xr4 would outrun it.

A 2003 225 opti Xmodel however said it weiged 398,dont know if that accurate but weight wise what im looking for,not more weight less,hp doeswnt really matter more or less to some degree.

Obviously a min run speed required like 60 two up,full load,but even a 1979 xlow 135 would most likly do that yet an xs 150 might not.

How can a motor be part of the touted xs seroies and have its 20 year old ansestor run past it?

Ho is pricing itsself out my range,best scenerio is another venom or vengance and have plenty of spare parts in the mean time getting just about any old mota just to push it like an old xflow one sitting below me in ga for 1000 bucks yet cant use it as 25 in.

Something like that would do for year or so and on an alley still might embarress some.

Thanks for the info on that wireless stuff.

3:59 pm
August 14, 2010


dougw

Texas

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While my SmartCraft gauges are DTS capable… the 225 Pro XS is not. Other than what you noted making it a tad easier to rig I have no real use for it. I don't ski nor do I troll while fishing and those are the only two real uses for the DTS "fly by wire" throttle.


I've never been able to get an accurate mileage rating. I've now got 20 hrs. total on the engine. 8 of those were break-in. 2-3 were pre/post tournament no-wakes. That leaves 10 hours or less for set up n' such and WOT during set-up runs ain't getting good mpg or gph. Plus… I screwed up the SmartCraft gauges the last time out(all better now though) so I couldn't get accuate instantanious mpg readings nor could I get MPG avg readings. My GPS has started clearing my trip timer when I turn it off. So If I don't think(which is a right regular occurance) to get the miles traveled then I'm SOL trying to figure out MPG.

8:58 am
August 14, 2010


lilmule

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Doug a lil research came upon this odd but neat innovation.

So asking doug is your opti thats smart craft capable a dts?

And shifts without cables?

Added cost is 500 bucks but think it would be worth it,providing it doesnt go out often.

And yes am contempalating a switch not in the near future but later one as merc is hotter out of the box,yet still stock so a mechanic sould be able to look at it without messing it up prioviding hes a merc mechanic.225 opti and 200 xs are possible canidates.While i dont know the particluars that motor dts eq would eliminate a lot of retro cabling,etc.

What did you say current gas consumption was?

Strangely the ho series of motors has taken a hike in price and currently the merc is looking nice $ wise.Even the 115 ho is 10-11 k,a 200 xs can be had for less money from repos from dealerships still nib.or 16 hrs use and 7-8 k from same source.

Right now a 250 ho is over 15 k,figgure they will prce themselves out of a decent market myself.

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