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11:07 am August 12, 2010
| lilmule
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Anytime weekend is busy and has a cold front be 92,suggestion would be sometime first of the week.
Been testing at the nearby pads,when one sees a strike on top its generally something it was chasing prior,semi reluctant to hit top still,but good lord was 96 few min ago when I tried it.
One slash at a buzzbait think it was annoyed more than anything,meantime Janet and I christened the watermelon patch had one for lunch.HMMM mmm good.
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10:25 am August 12, 2010
| OutdoorFrontiers
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Yeah, the guy did come and pick up the boat, so the motor is gone. However, I do have his phone number on my cell I think if you'd like to give him a call….
And we do need to get down to Hole 179 and test it out for fish. When would you like to go?
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8:35 pm August 11, 2010
| lilmule
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By the way you got off lite,I furnished the fire and you didnt bring any marshmellows or wienies.
Im not giving up ,still have rods and the desire,still fishing 9/12 birdsong,if noone else is would go as a non boater in aba,if however you are same as last time I will furnish the entry fee.
Will be a tad warmer this year and may not be the same bite but their is one there,spinnerbait,worm etc,dynamite,something.I made a black mo buzz bait just like his,which is somewhat like mine in wire form,but single blade and a clacker.Must be industrial spies copying.
And Ive always wondered if that one that went north ever got fished?
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8:22 pm August 11, 2010
| lilmule
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Actually there are blown motors on screamnfly asking 2 k,generally mercs,and know plenty of parts reusable if I happen to get another 35 amp system will keep.
Nothing wrong with mercs ive owned both,however in the cheap older less hp that leaves the tower of power inline 6 at 400 plus,and do not have merc cables controls so add another 300.
The only advantage of going with a merc would be in higher hp as can get a torque master on it,200 xs is sweet -10 k,yet feel i can get by with half that much spent with a reman or used 1/3 as much.
Will keep an eye out this winter for someone on s and f that has say a 140 looper early 90 deg or even an older xflow,then hopefully trade a 200 rude awaking for a lot of that purchace.
135-140 xlows 1500-1800,loopers 2-2300,much less weight as well xflow is 315lb in a 20 in.
Years ago i had a johnson 135 wish I had it now it ran my 17 ft 1000 pd boat 59,had no nosecone so was deep.,on the alley with day a bobs 65,single loaded I bet,the 140 depending upon model x or L 68-70.
The other added problem with a merc here is both nearby dealers are rude,closest one is at the dam area in ky,these claim all round work,yeah that works for impellors etc
The 200 xs is very sweet indeed,but think im going budget basser,somewhat due to funds,and then not for quite some time,definately nothing this year.
Wonder what ever happened to that old johnson sitting over where you used to rent at steve ,did he ever come back and get it?
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7:03 pm August 11, 2010
| dougw
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and then…. you can take the 5-600.00 you got and "invest" in a Mecury! LOL…. jest a li'l humor in a tough situation…
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6:52 pm August 11, 2010
| OutdoorFrontiers
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Yeah, but there has to be some kind of value to your old motor. Even if you sell it to someone wanting to build a hotrod boat, there has to be $500 – $600 worth of parts there….
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7:33 am August 11, 2010
| lilmule
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Corrected ,what I wanted and what it got two different things,one ccl piston and rings,all new wrist
bearings,new gaskits where needed ,honed on that one cyl and really should have been .020,as 123 psi,most likly after seating would have gained more others were 130-135 used.
Whats done is done,like that engine,my usage of where they did the work as well.
So have a surplus of some omc parts,some cnc special so wont fit another motor that isnt also machined,15 in lower was not factory,repowerhead iffy,as main was altered,new holes to match in block,in short a small machine shop with experienced helpers,all available 5 hrs away.
And should i desire to use a repowerhead taking it 5 hrs away to soddy daisy and paul nichols.thats a long ways off have to recover from this first.
Also doubt Ill go that route much cheaper to place either an older crossflow 140 on it or the first year looper 140 110 ci 85 model,as they are a dime a doz coat 1/3 as much as a 150 and weigh 113 pds less,anyone can service if qualified,and if broke go get another as cheaper than rebuilding.
Yet would run the lil alley over 60,while they use more gas they dont when its a 140 and the former a 200 hp hopped.Should average about the same or even less.
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4:27 am August 11, 2010
| dougw
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Correct me where I'm wrong. But… best I recall it was a full set of rings, new bearings, one new piston and hone #1 cylinder. Add required gaskets/seals/sealer and to me it sounds like a full over-haul. A rebuilt short block at the very least.
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9:20 pm August 10, 2010
| lilmule
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That would have merit if had been a total rebuild,it wasnt one cyl and new bearings,were they a tad tight hmmm,would I spend big bucks regardless if under a warrenty no dont want my boat to be a permanent attachment somewhere else.
I was a lil leary of the motor after seeing how much cnc work had been done,then after dunking it even more so,and even more when told one cyl was bad as knew it took a real hop mechanic to remove the carbs and adjust.Noone locally knows crap about hopped engines,drive 5 hrs you can find plenty.In the mean time not putting more money in an engine noone locally can service without breaking something,if i really want to fish that bad can bum a ride or go on the troller,somewhere like birdsong is an easy troll.
When I get a replacement be stock other than the lower unit with a bobs addon and most likly a 20 in,then set for pad level at absolute top,never needing a guage.preferably one that uses a 35 amp alt system as have spare parts,not exactly in any hurry,kind of fed up right now.
Not with fishing but with luck,tossing that porta charm away,figgue if it needs anything someone like blue an grey marine,in and out anything else ill get real onry.
Heat is killing my garden,have about 40 melons on and currently only thing left to lose,man are they sweet and full of juice,melt in yer mouth,got some about 20 lbs or so and yeah figgure I could eat a whole one at one sittin,they just lack a hair of being ripe,hope they make it .
If not ill have plenty of ammo organic cannonballs
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8:16 pm August 10, 2010
| dougw
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Well that sucks – big time! But… I just have a huge problem with someone rebuilding an engine and then when it goes belly up in a few hours of run time - "Awww Geee… thermostat stuck open…" I'm afraid me n' said meck'a'nen'ick would be havin' one serious come to Jesus meetings. Yeah… 2k for yet another rebuild from the same ya'hoo…. Would compare to me taking my boat back to Florida – which ain't nev'a gonna happen. That's just pure B/S. I suspect a piss-poor job from the git-go is what did the 'rude in… not some convieniently stuck thermostat… B/S!
Heck I'm P.O'd and it ain't even my engine!
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1:57 pm August 10, 2010
| lilmule
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Bad news is that their is no good news other than stator and other things can be reused on another 35 amp sytem motor.
Toast extra crispy,thermostat stuck open,didnt let water get to it,60 lbs compression 4 cyl with about 2 000 to rebuild will just find another mota later and reuse what I can.
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6:43 am August 10, 2010
| lilmule
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Well reeds stuck open flood one quite a bit,and running an omc with the airbox removed is or can be toast for number one cyl if the tuner doesnt know what they are doing,but then its air not gas tht does it.
Wont know much till later.
And it seemed to be all located at number one,gas and smoke,along with heat,yet turns over so shouldnt have melted.
Spent the evening looking ovr possible replacements even though funds not available,have pretty much decided on a 140 crossflow ,much less weight 315 pds,and more low end torque,top end still would or should be mid 60s with a 2/1 gear ratio,and thats about all thats needed here.
As a comparison something like steves triton does about 64 to 67 here,full load.
Ive gotten used to my canoe so the boat will stick with me awhile.
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7:58 pm August 9, 2010
| dougw
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Sounds ugly… With carbs dripping doesn't appear to be fuel starvation. Might well be a problem with clearances on the bearings. Or lack of clearances – as the case may be. Kinna sounds like it was set up real tight – real tight.
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7:22 pm August 9, 2010
| lilmule
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Ps on such a hot day a black flywheel just sitting in the sun would be very hot indeed,same with a black mota with the hood off,with cover on it thermostat allowed it to fire within 1/2 hr of being home.Yes it worries me,even after getting back if fixed it will worry me not knowing what lies in wait.
And fire it dioes,but backfires same as when the reeds were stuck,my luck the stator went dont know.Wont speculate,wait and see
And once prior the gt200 smoked so much thought it was on fire as well,it was ok later,hopefully this is.
Not everyone can claim each and every time I take them out try to strand or drown them
Regardless still want too fish 9/12,even if I have to go as a non boater in aba would would prefer the industrial,company is better.
Not that i couldnt apply the money better elsewhere but my well being needs to get some ,out time,preferrbly with no fires ,sinkings, blown motors,or suicidal beavers and ardvarks.
The bright side we saw a grey fox on the shore,with all the coyotes thats unusual.
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7:03 pm August 9, 2010
| lilmule
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Well it started ok ,double oil it smoked a fair amount,did not however want to come on plane easily with extra weight(steve) until he came forward some,mine is a 2 by 2 one behind the other not a side by side,revs didnt really come up either till it tipped over.
Ran it mid forties to hole number 7,getting to 48 just prior to landing,fished there no luck of any amount,then went up lake south to anotherhole couple miles away is all,ran boat about the same.
Dished there not much luck,went to come back hard to start like it had flooded,again with steve assisting got on plane,ran it a tad faster achieving around 53,I did bump up the jp when I slowed again to around 46,barge and wind waves,but psi stayed at 18 ,at that aspeed it inst all the way up as stepped pad,noticed it was slowing 43,sounding odd,checked psi ame off plane saw majotr smoke so killed the motor,for about 1 min thought the thing was on fire,after getting the hood off,even it was hot(hot day as well),could see all teh smoke coming from one cly number one,with out an that is one you will burn up if you dont know settings for the carbs.Turned key back on got an alarm thenso didnt fiore it up,hr later it turned over but no fire,got it home now it fires but does not start.My guess is reeds stuck,thermostat then stuck as a hot day,reason not starting again guess same reeds like having a choke stick.
Wont know until jhe looks at it,but thats why it didnt sstart up for me the reeds sticking,he took them out sanded then put back in,then first trip bet they stuck again,thats my guess.
yes it got hot, yes poed, im not the best person to be around right now,yes steve caught fish he always does
No he didnt catch keepers,no dont know much of anything for sure,no im not sinking mo money in it as dont have it to sink
The boat I like as small light easy for an old fart to move around(other than lacking front storage),the motor im leary of after joe paloka has worked on it
on rear of motor is stamped wild man toy- it was when running when i got it just not now
thiking of replacing when denaro is available with much smaller motor as dont need to fly,like a 115 or 140 4 cyl that weighs but 315,cheap comparitively but that has to wait a bit like a year and a half or so,not quite a milenium but seemingly so
In the mean time the bright side is boat is light travels well on a troller,and its mine
I hope this was a fair assumnation **&^%$*&*#@%%(*^&%$#&** )(*%*#%^%%$
Bottom line each and every time ive picked it up something else different,isnt working that did even at the shop,if its running fine wait five min ,if not wait five an it will fix itself????
Grass is virtually non existant topped that is,veggies down south and not as much as norm,schoolers suspended 6-8 ft in 20 ft of water,keepers havnt a clue.Senkos,flukes,spinnerbaits,c4,dynamite,e=mc square
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6:50 pm August 9, 2010
| OutdoorFrontiers
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I was sitting behind him, watching the gps. We were running about 43 mph when Lil Mule started shutting it down. He said that it just started losing power, even though the water pressure was still running decent. As he brought the rpms down, the water pressure dropped.
At that point, I looked back and the motor cowl was smoking to the point we thought the motor might be on fire. We got the cowl off, gas dribbling from the carbs, and the flywheel was so bloody hot I couldn't even touch it. Even two hours later, you couldn't comfortably put your hand on the flywheel.
That's all I know right now…. 
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5:36 pm August 9, 2010
| dougw
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Due to lack of information I'm assumin'…. things didn't go as planned. Or maybe they went as planned but not as desired. Water pressure, double oil… n' still ran hot? Post up when ya' find out what happened or what caused what happened.
I feel fer ya'…. really I do. Hope it's minor and you yip-yippin' tomorrow sometime!
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4:29 pm August 9, 2010
| OutdoorFrontiers
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Well, at least it fires now, that's more than it did before. Man, I thought you really toasted the motor. I've never felt an engine cowl that hot that wasn't on fire!
Hopefully you didn't do any long-term damage and the repair will be something simple. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.
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1:18 pm August 9, 2010
| lilmule
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@#$#^% &^()*#@!
will find out tomorrow how much damage was done does turn over and fire just not run figgure it was the reeds stuck open*&%%$^#@#$##
)(^%u&&$$@%&&% i))***
WELL AT LEAST YOU CAUGHT 4 FISH EVEN IF THEY WERE A 1/4 IN SHORT and didnt have a bad ride out,lets not talk about the one coming back in lol %%$$#**&*^$#@@
*)& &$ ! %$#@)
if the vkings had this trouble never would have discovered vinland prior to old chrisopher
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4:40 am August 9, 2010
| lilmule
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Ramp it is,75 f-5mph wind–20 percent chance of wet stuff.
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