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5:52 am
December 20, 2009


Bass Doctor

New York, Ontario and Illinois

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Hi Steve,


I agree completely with the points you raised.


I also should have mentioned the hook size as I too use a Gamakatsu 1/0 Octopus bait hook tied to 10lb test copolymer line on a spinning gear set up.


  • They use tackle that's too heavy 
  • A BAD bass fishing habit!

  • They use hooks that are too large 
  • I could never understand having an exposed 3/0 or 4/0 on ANY bait other that a top water frog!

  • They insist on giving the lure "action" and not just letting it fall .
  • Let it fall to the bottom, then raise the rod tip and let it fall again!!! One of the easiest techniques out there!

     

    Tight Lines!

    Charles "The Bass Doctor" Stuart.Cool

    PS thanks for the link to the picture posts!!!!

    Sponsored by: Gary Yamamoto Custom Baits, G.Loomis, Shimano, SmartShield, Megastrike, Cavitron Buzzbaits, Evolution Jigs, Bullet Weights, Alex Lures, Triton Boats, Chevy Trucks.

    10:09 am
    December 19, 2009


    OutdoorFrontiers

    Whitlock, TN

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    Bass Doctor said:

    Hi everyone!


    This is my first post and it just so happens that this is one of the topics I can speak about with some knowledge having been shown the secret of Whacky Rigging from the master himself!


    I can only comment on the plastics that make this style of fishing so productive and they  are those manufactured by Gary Yamamoto Custom Baits.


    I am sure other styles of Senko , Sticko, etc will work, but the results I can promise you will ONLY come from the Senko.


    A common mistake that many anglers make when rigging this bait, is to bend the worm in half and stick a hook in the middle! That is completely WRONG!!!!!!


    Take a look at a GYCB Senko and you will see that the bait is not the same at both ends! With that in mind, how can bending it in half give equal balance to the presentation????


    I am now going to share with you the location of the center of balance. This was a best kept secret and I did not share this with anyone until I stopped fishing the tour and started giving seminars and lectures on bass fishing.


    The center of a SENKO (4″ and 5″ sizes) is located two rings down on the long side of the worm, just below the "EGG SACK" or smooth section of the worm.


    If you are using an "O" ring to save your worm, make sure the ring sits tight on that section.


    I can promise you that the number of hits you get will increase and that the action you will gain from a perfectly balanced Senko will change your presentation forever!


    If I can work out how to post pictures, I will try and add one to this post.


    Tight Lines!

    Charles "The Bass Doctor" Stuart.


    Hi Charles, I'm glad to see you here on the forums.  I look forward to getting your input on topics fishing related.

    I do realize that bending the stick bait in half and hooking it at the fold isn't exactly the balance point based on the weight of the worm, but I do it that way for several reasons.

    • It's easy
    • I use a hook much smaller and lighter than most people I see wacky rigging (1/0 octopus)
    • I kinda like the way the lure will fall and slightly drift off to one side

    But I will keep your points in mind when I get back out on the water.

    I've found that many people can't catch fish on a wacky rigged stick bait because

    • They insist on giving the lure "action" and not just letting it fall
    • They use tackle that's too heavy
    • They use hooks that are too large
    • They insist on giving the lure "action" and not just letting it fall Confused

    What are your thoughts on that?


    And, for getting pictures into posts, here's a link that should help you understand the process.

    http://outdoorfrontiers.com/fo…..rum-posts/


    Again, WELCOME ABOARD!

    Steve Huber Editor in Chief/Executive Producer OutdoorFrontiers Multi-Media

    9:19 am
    December 19, 2009


    Bass Doctor

    New York, Ontario and Illinois

    Member

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    Hi everyone!


    This is my first post and it just so happens that this is one of the topics I can speak about with some knowledge having been shown the secret of Whacky Rigging from the master himself!


    I can only comment on the plastics that make this style of fishing so productive and they  are those manufactured by Gary Yamamoto Custom Baits.


    I am sure other styles of Senko , Sticko, etc will work, but the results I can promise you will ONLY come from the Senko.


    A common mistake that many anglers make when rigging this bait, is to bend the worm in half and stick a hook in the middle! That is completely WRONG!!!!!!


    Take a look at a GYCB Senko and you will see that the bait is not the same at both ends! With that in mind, how can bending it in half give equal balance to the presentation????


    I am now going to share with you the location of the center of balance. This was a best kept secret and I did not share this with anyone until I stopped fishing the tour and started giving seminars and lectures on bass fishing.


    The center of a SENKO (4″ and 5″ sizes) is located two rings down on the long side of the worm, just below the "EGG SACK" or smooth section of the worm.


    If you are using an "O" ring to save your worm, make sure the ring sits tight on that section.


    I can promise you that the number of hits you get will increase and that the action you will gain from a perfectly balanced Senko will change your presentation forever!


    If I can work out how to post pictures, I will try and add one to this post.


    Tight Lines!

    Charles "The Bass Doctor" Stuart.

    Sponsored by: Gary Yamamoto Custom Baits, G.Loomis, Shimano, SmartShield, Megastrike, Cavitron Buzzbaits, Evolution Jigs, Bullet Weights, Alex Lures, Triton Boats, Chevy Trucks.

    4:12 pm
    December 8, 2009


    OutdoorFrontiers

    Whitlock, TN

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    lilmule said:Hes aboslutely right that 10 pd power pro is good stuff,Ive been in the same boat using the same baits (rubber) using 20 pd and he gets more hits


    LOL, that's cuz you're not holding your mouth right!  I keep telling you that!Wink

    Steve Huber Editor in Chief/Executive Producer OutdoorFrontiers Multi-Media

    3:41 pm
    December 8, 2009


    lilmule

    Buchanan,Tn

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    Hes aboslutely right that 10 pd power pro is good stuff,Ive been in the same boat using the same baits (rubber) using 20 pd and he gets more hits

    2:23 pm
    December 8, 2009


    andyfender

    New York

    Member

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    Yes, Steve has given me some great tips! I can't wait to start using braid next season!


    Andy

    2:05 pm
    December 8, 2009


    lilmule

    Buchanan,Tn

    Member

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    Andy I think you will find that is Steve H

    And he does do a good job with those little octi hooks

    7:53 pm
    December 7, 2009


    OutdoorFrontiers

    Whitlock, TN

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    Andy,


    Good stick baits are made of soft plastic to get that seductive wiggle, consequently they are soft and tear easily.  It's not uncommon to lose one lure for each fish you catch!


    In an effort to save lures and money, some people will roll a small o-ring to the middle of a stick bait, then slip the hook bend under the o-ring, never hooking the lure at all.  The thought is that if the lure isn't penetrated by the hook, it won't tear and go flying off.


    I have tried this method and it does work to some extent.  However I also found that a good fish can shake the lure hard enough to fling it from the o-ring and often times the o-ring goes sailing as well!  Since the o-rings typically cost about three to five cents each, it now costs even more when you do lose a lure.


    I've given up on using o-rings and if I find myself going through a lot of lures, I'll simple put a wrap of electrical tape around the middle of the stick bait and stick the hook through the tape!

    Steve Huber Editor in Chief/Executive Producer OutdoorFrontiers Multi-Media

    4:46 pm
    December 7, 2009


    andyfender

    New York

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    Hello,

    I saw a video that Steve H did. In this video he show how he wacky rigs his baits. Bend Worm in half, insert hook. So why do they make "O" rings for wacky rigging? Is this just a gimmick or is there some validity to it?


    Andy


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