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7:49 pm
December 20, 2009


OutdoorFrontiers

Whitlock, TN

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I'm with you Doug, I don't believe that the fish really care that there's a line running from the lure or not.  With a brain the size of a pea, they're really not capable of cognitive thought.  Conditioned response to certain stimuli certainly, but I think a fish's refusal is more a matter of size, color, action, speed or sound than the line being visible.


There's hope for me too, I have many of the soft plastics that you've mentioned already, now all I have to do is try c-rigging more often I guess…..

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5:49 pm
December 20, 2009


dougw

Texas

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Oh… and one other thing….


one of the reasons I use a flipping stick – when I set the hook I want to be able to move that 1oz. weight – RIGHT NOW! With a medium action rod with a fast tip it gives too much for me. Can't tell you the number of times I've gotten bit with the weight up agains a rock or other obstruction that without the stout rod I couldn't have completed the hookset by moving the obstruction along with hooking the fish.


A story… My long time partner, 12 years worth before I left Ga., taught me how to c'rig. He used mono and a relatively soft rod. We're both long range casters but when I change to a heavier rod and braid I'm outcasting him 30-40 yards. Then one day we're fishing in a hurricane… OK, a right stiff breeze. His mono has about a 10 yard bow in it my braid has about a 6″ bow… the next time out….. o'l partner is strung up with braid – on a flippin' stick.


On braid…. seems there's two schools of thought. One is the line is a distraction and should be as invisible as possible. The other is the line is simply and extension of the lure. I am a follower of the latter. Having used braid and fireline on the dang near gin clear water that is the south end of Lake Lanier in Georgia and winning tournaments doing so someone will have to do quite a bit to change my point of view.


Might build me a 8' c'rig rod one of these days if I can locate a suitable blank and find the time to do it.

5:32 pm
December 20, 2009


dougw

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For about 7-8 years it was a watermellon seed lizzard. Since I moved to texas that bait got regulated to #2 behind a watermellon seed/red baby brush hog. But… If the hog ain't working it's right back to the WMS lizzard. Other baits in the top 5 are: 11″ black worm, watermellon seed red brush hog, 11″ ribbon tail red shad worm.


I've tried the 30# braid long ago. It's "ok" but if you have a right stout rod coupled with a 1oz weight and and you sling it like you're trying to fish the river from the dam and it backlashes – you will be retying as what appears to be shrapnel litters the water 2-300 yards out! Hey! Give them duck hunters something to worry about for a change!


I stay with the 1oz weight for two reasons… make that three. It keeps the bait on the bottom where I want it. It cast big creature baits much better and one of the main reason. I know, with out fail, what it's supposed to feel like when I'm fishing it. It doesn't feel like that – I set the hook!

2:39 pm
December 20, 2009


OutdoorFrontiers

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That might be part of my problem the little bit I have fished a c-rig, too light of a sinker.  I have been using braid for the mainline as I am a firm believer in the sensitivity and hook-setting properties of braided line, but I've been using 30 lb, thinking the slightly thinner diameter might help keep the lure down where it needs to be.


Next time out bassin', I'll try heavier sinkers and see how that works.


Do you guys have favorite or go-to lures for c-rigging?

Steve Huber Editor in Chief/Executive Producer OutdoorFrontiers Multi-Media

10:41 am
December 20, 2009


lilmule

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Thats nice I to use braid mostly and a havy weight,but sometimes a 3/4,main difference in being i generally use 12 to 15 pd mono on the leader,and of about 24 to 30 in.

8:25 am
December 20, 2009


dougw

Texas

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These are simply my opinions for c'riggin'. Just like…. ears… most folks have'em and usually more than one!

1.) The weight: I use a 1oz. egg sinker exclusively. If I need something other than a 1oz. weight I'm using a different method of fishing. I think the main purpose of a sinker on a c'rig is to get a bait to the bottom and keep it there. 1oz does exactly that. I've tried bullet weights and mojo weights and found neither more effective at eliminating hang-ups that are going to happen while c'rigging. And both tend to helicopter on the cast with the mojo weight being the absolute worse at it. Early on I tried brass n' glass weights n' beads but after years of c'riggin' I came to the conclusion that, for me, it was a waste of time and money. Unless you jigglin' the rod trying to make a noise with that set up… straight drag and stop c'riggin' stacks the brass n' glass up and it doesn't separtate then clack together.


2.)Main line – Braid 50#s minimum. I started c'riggin' with mono simply because braid was not available at that time. Advantages of braid: good hook set capability on a 3,000yd. cast. OK… maybe not 3,000 yard but you get the idea. When you get hung up you are able to turn over a lot of rocks if hung up on rocks, pull up a lay-down or similar piece of wood cover or if the hook is stuck to an immovable object either straighten the hook or break the leader. Much less wind resistance of comparable test mono. All of that and the ability to feel the almost imperseptible "tick" at the end of a long cast. Disadvantage – If you can't turn over the rock, break the leader or straight the hook… that's what deck cleats are for!  Also…. braid is not rock friendly if it contacts the sharp of edge of a rock while under a strain – the rock will cut it off like a sharp knife. This happens to me seldomly but it does happen.


3.) Rod - 7'6″ graphite flippin' stick. Even though it's a flippin' stick, I use one from CastAway, it needs to have some tip action – but not much. Advantages: better distance on casting, better hooksets due to better line take up capabilities – required because of the leader/swivel set up. And… better "feel". A soft tip will not transmit the bottom as well as a stiffer rod. If you're using less than a 1oz. weight you can get by with a softer tip - but I don't. Disadvantages – Non-boater gets tired of hearing you holler "Get the net!"


4.) Reel – I use a Curado 6.2 or 7.0 but any high-speed reel will suffice. 2 reasons: Sometimes when c'riggin' only part of the cast area is productive. Say you get past the rough/rocky bottom and hit the soft stuff – cank back in and cast again. A lot of times the fish has picked up the bait and is swimming towards you – the boat is positioned in very deep water while you're casting in the 15-25' depth. For some reason it seems that when a fish grabs a meal – it heads to deeper water. You'll need a reel capable of catching up with the fish and you'll struggle doing that with a 5.x ratio class reel.


5.) The leader: 20# co-polyomer. See tip below.


Tip: If you go from mono to braid AND you utilize a stiff rod. You need to up the pound test of the leader or plan on experiencing leader snaps on the hook set. When I first started with mono I used a 10# mono leader(berkely trilene). With braid and stiffer rod… bite… hookset… snapped leader. In the course of finding the smallest diameter leader I could use I went from 10# to 12# to 15#… snap…snap…snap…. 17# was better but 20# leader was the final solution. I have tried flurocarbon and, I think, due to the low stretch and poor knott strength, it would break. Fluro coated co-polyomers worked a little better but still didn't equal a straight co-polyomer. Currently I'm using 20# AN40 but most any 20# co-polyomer should work fine.

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